Â «General to the French? The defense must be Italian "

07 Dec

Posted by ReD as General, News

Â "The Government's decision to put on the market 30.1% of the capital, making mandatory cosÃ ¬ lâ € ™ Opa cut the bull's head than many voices or speculation without foundation. Ã obvious that only an entrepreneur or a group willing to undertake very serious and important resources can respond to this sfidaÂ. The case of Alitalia is a good start to talk with Massimo Dâ € ™ Alema, 57 years, Deputy Premier and Minister of Foreign Affairs, the relationship between politics and economics.

Ã Ds true that the focus on Toto?
I will think the market, not the vote in Parliament. Toto has demonstrated entrepreneurial capacity. If you have a business plan, capital, can compete. I do not know anything of its projects. Let's face it: anyone willing to spend, to do lâ € ™ contractor will face forward.

And the antitrust concerns identified by CatricalÃ?
Putting together Alitalia and AirOne do, and no sÃ ¬, 60% of the market that is less than you normally control the so-called national airlines in the domestic markets of countries so-called liberals. I do not want us to become more liberal Liberal ...

With the "pole" of guarantees of employment levels is likely to be compromised € ™ lâ € ™ interest in the purchase. The problem with Alitalia Ã ¨ lâ € ™ over-unionization.
We just have to avoid that end in the hands of those who want to do speculation only financial.

Mediaset talk about that you define Â ¬ "a heritage of PaeseÂ. The law Gentiloni, said Fedele Confalonieri, burns a quarter of turnover. Ã revenge?
Mediaset is a heritage of the country. That heritage is become enormously more great thanks to favorable legislation. The ddl Gentiloni introduces modest restrictions on advertising and concentration, if anything, could be criticized that the draft law to be a compromise between what is right and what is considered acceptable. By law to be puÃ ² Mediaset lâ € ™ encouragement to innovate, to become more competitive, rather than exploit © a position that would not be sustainable in any democratic country.

Acceptable to whom? Certainly not by Confalonieri which has already protested. By the way, he phoned?
No, I telephoned. To return to the topic, I note that in other countries, maybe liberal culture samples, the concentration of cases are resolved by rules far more drastic, as in the United States. The proposed scheme is balanced and very respectful of the interests of Mediaset. Try to pass it to a law of punishment is very unlikely.

And if for reasons of technological and market in the future to arrive at a convergence Mediaset-Telecom, which would take place?
Apart from the fact that this technological convergence is a contrasting view, I do not by the merits. I think only that we should develop a national content industry. Lâ € ™ Italy would, of course, for cultural, a content provider is competitive, but still not investing enough in its content, in quality. We are importers of format and tend to approve. Anyway, back to the question, if lâ € ™ evolution of technology requires the creation of composite tv-phone porrei barriers. The problem of Mediaset if anything is to avoid being turned into a party.

About tv and parties. Many see in her one of the main sponsors of the third pole tv actor who sees the group De Agostini.
I do not sponsor anyone and I do not know even the protagonists of these publications. Some time ago you said that I supported the escalation of Ricucci to Corriere della Sera. I never met Ricucci and I'm not concerned climbing. The truth is that there are in our country, some of â € ™ information, which, instead of informing ©, are services to someone. Sometimes even low services.

Even the appointment of Iozzo wanted by Piero Fassino at the head of the Deposit and loans is an underground legend? What you should do the Cashier in the future?
Iozzo is not appointed by Fassino and, if anything, you should worry about whether he has the professional and ethical requirements for lâ € ™ task to which it was called. I believe them. The Deposit and lending provides loans to local ² and can help finance investment in large infrastructure needs in the country. Lâ € ™ is important to do so ever more into a market and not in a "political".

The presence of the "party of Prodi '€ ™ in the economy seems to increase after lâ € ™ operation Intesa-Sanpaolo. Ã a legend subway this? Ã a gossip that the Ds are in big trouble because © must catch up?
Legends. If it were true that Prodi check lâ € ™ economy should be happy, I am your Vice President.

Pera ² Ã ¨ she went on vacation thinking that it would be the fusion-Sanpaolo and Monte Paschi to return it is found Intesa-Sanpaolo.
I never even suspected for a moment that should have arrived at Monte Paschi-Sanpaolo. I was accused of a € ™ absolute naivety.

In the sense that she knows too well the Sienese to believe that they are ready to merge?
In the sense that they are so jealous of their autonomy.

Therefore expected Intesa-Sanpaolo?
I can not hide that it was a surprise for me as for everyone. Prodi also told me that is was a surprise even for him. And I do not have reason to doubt it.

However, it is created a considerable concentration of power around the area of € ™ Bazoli Guzzetti or some more close to the € ™ of the premier cultural area that is not for you.
I have difficulty, knowing a poa € ™ Bazoli to think that both the ears of some piece of politics.

A € ™ other items of news-that is the concern that it would be in favor of marriage between Monte and Capitalia.
If there was a code of ethics of journalism seriously Italian, lâ € ™ expression "news-item" should be banned. Coma is € ™ know, I deal with politics and not the shareholder nÃ © Monte dei Paschi, nÃ © Capitalia.

We come to the heart of the relationship between politics and finance: lâ € ™ Italian Generali. In these hours, you decide the future of the pact of Mediobanca, and therefore the future of the Company. The French have a deliberate strategy. Do you think that?
Ã a question that can not be resolved in an abstract logic of the market. Must find a balanced solution. Ã clear that the market remains an essential, but when it comes to strategic interests of the countries wherever it comes into play politics. We can not think that the financial heart of â € ™ Italy it takes someone else.

Therefore must remain Italian?
I think just sÃ ¬. But not in a closed. The French are already in Mediobanca and it is useful to have a presence. Moreover I have always heard the chairman of Generali said in his elegant French that it was necessary to defend lâ € ™ ¨ of the Italian General.

With the French, there are several open lots, from Finmeccanica to Alitalia. How to be treated?
I believe that nobody can take away Finmeccanica. Ã a strong company, a piece of Italian economy can be integrated with the world and not in a subordinate. In complex areas such as arms and technology integration mean puÃ ² divest guide to who is more forward, keeping it in areas where there is its excellence. I think the future is in the strong integration of the system of business, consistent with the growth policy of â € ™ Europe. Of course, our interest is that some maintain the head in Italy.

Privatization Fincantieri is a political case. The Treasury wants to sell, the radical left do not. What is your opinion?
Fincantieri is € ™ a company that is good: it needs capital to grow even more. The Government does not rule out that can go on the stock market, but the premise is that a serious business plan, then you will see.

Cooperatives. It was precisely from € ™ interview with Sole-24 Ore that arose many political controversy for his support for the € ™ of Unipol Consort. More than one year from € ™ summer of "furbetti" what do you think?
I think what I thought then. I believe that there was an affair with profiles very questionable from the point of view of lawfulness â € "that is the case Antonveneta â €" and I believe that Unipol has remained entangled â € "we will see the conclusion of the investigation â €" probably in order marginal. But it is quite clear that this has provided the pretext for a stamp € ™ operation that gave nuisance. Ca € ™ it was an excess of credulity: there are no operations that scale without adequate protections and alliances. This is the truth, the real error € ™.

It makes one think that such Colaninno at the time of the "captains courageous" was able to move better. And a Palazzo Chigi ca € ™ was her.
Colaninno not made any move, but, for the first time in the history of our country, ² buy a larger company market paid all the shareholders large and small. The government did nothing, because the rest © ² absolutely neutral. Colaninno, then, has proven to be a good entrepreneur.

Returning to Unipol € ™, therefore agrees with the reconstruction that makes Mucchetti in "Il Corriere del bug" certainly very critical of Tronchetti, Della Valle and Geronzi?
SÃ ¬, that is the truth. Ca € ™ is a system of power â € "and it's obvious that both cosÃ ¬ â €" that is protected against new comers.

How?
For example lâ € ™ information. Dâ € ™ other hand when one has to defend itself and has a stick that is? The use.

But newspapers are newspapers, not sticks. And the journalists do their job, like it or not, and exert self-judgment.
Unfortunately not always cosÃ ¬ Ã ¨. When it comes to vital interests ultimately weigh lâ € ™ interest in the property. Dâ € ™ Ã ¨ Moreover inevitable, given lâ € ™ attitude quite peculiar of â € ™ Italian publishing. There are no pure publishers, you have a newspaper to try and not let them sell as many copies, but to have an instrument of pressure. For some time I have argued that it was necessary to introduce a standard anti-trust type of American who has interests in other areas can not have newspapers. € ™ a utopia in Italy where, pear ², I continue to consider all of the absurd lâ € ™ idea that people who should not have televisions newspapers. Ã something that has no logic.

Let us return to capital at € ™ Italian players proliferate new municipal socialism, cooperatives. Players that have favorable conditions dictated by politics.
An account is the coop, which are businesses.

Enterprise facilitated.
There are few companies with the facilities and with some limitation in their ability to maneuver. Another account is the municipal corporation. The cooperators are good employers and demonstrates the fact that whenever the create a cooperative society for actions that are listed on the Stock Exchange, normally get a great success. Cooperative in the world now there are actually very different: on the one hand there are many small cooperatives, with a few workers that are associated with each other, and then there are few large structures â € "in the distribution, construction, and in one part of the system Services â € "who are now big business and have problems of big business. Some may become the Spa, but you can imagine other scenarios. On these issues in the cooperative movement is an ongoing reflection. I believe that the next congress of the League could be an important time for developing and defining the strategies that this is one of the most vital areas of â € ™ Italian economy.

E lâ € ™ intrusiveness of local?
Ca € ™ is an issue of reforming the system of local public services: the market should be open, maybe even privatized. But a distinction should be made: there are companies gem â € "and I do not want to talk than usual, efficient model emiliano â €" such as, for example, Asm Brescia and others that are real public. Ã obvious that they need different interventions.

The square pro Berlusconi in Rome and the many squares in the north who have joined small companies, traders and artisans complain all the same thing: do not feel represented by you. They want a recognition society, asking to leave the paradigm that would see tax evaders.
Clear: we are a country divided. When ca € ™ was the center-right government with the same problem of social recognisability lâ € ™ had teachers who were all in the streets against the government. The political divisions are normal, but if they become territorial or social fractures are an injury. Ã true: the world of small business at this time we have a problem. But our state is and it is mainly a problem of the message, not of substance. The facts give us reason. As you can see already, the fight against evasion € ™ is giving results and this will shortly be honest the Italians to pay less taxes. No ca € ™ Ã ¨ demonization was no tax.

A certain willingness to represent the Tax as implacable persecutor pear ² exists.
Just the taxes are paid on account of each ² that is earned. Period. The issue is this. Unfortunately, our weakness is the power of Berlusconi. He embodies that naturaliter annoyance to the rules, the anti-government sentiment that is widespread. Ca € ™ Ã ¨ lâ € ™ basic idea that the state does not serve because © is just riding. The slogan is: we produce and consume their own waste. But I am feeling with which we face. Now the future is changed by the pact on productivity that we have discussed in the seminar Italianieuropei, the new social pact.

SÃ ¬, but if it is perceived as the destruction of the Biagi law will not do much.
Damian has set this matter with great seriousness and balance. The real problem is to encourage flexibility and meritocracy, hitting, pear ², forms of intolerable insecurity and overexploitation. This can be the basis for a serious agreement between unions and employers.

And what makes policy?
An intelligent capacity of government. € ™ I think the legacy left in Veneto and Emilia from large parties Dc and Pci historians. Governed by the pact with the small and medium local enterprise. Social compromise that I think is still valid. Ca € ™ is, in most, a fundamental issue in our country: the fear of technology, a kind of cultural mistrust towards science and its applications. On this we must reflect. And much. Ã game in the future.