Little to do with finance but public willingly. The Corriere della Sera:

"I'm working to bring down the government"
The phone call between and Saccà, "That's crazy Antonella Troise you into my head that I hate her '

The call time of 12:09:07 15:18 by Silvio to Agostino Sacca (A.: Agostino Sacca, S: secretary Sacca, P.: President ).

A. \ Who's there? ... Hello?

S. \ Director Sacca, good evening, the Secretariat of president .

A. \ Ah yes, thanks.

S. \ I'll do I switch?

A. \ Certainly.

S. \ Thanks.

(After a few seconds of waiting:)

S. \ Director, even for a moment, please.

A. \ Yes, thanks, of course.

(After a few seconds of waiting:)

P. \ Hello?

A. \ Good evening, President, how are you? Well, well ...

P. \ I am working to topple the government and on behalf of succeeding.

A. \ And I think we can let it be ... I wanted to ...

P. \ It the phone for two things ...

A. \ Yes, yes.

P. \ Well ... I'll call you for two things in addition to the story of Rai, of course, so ...

A. \ Yes, yes.

P. \ Fabiano Fabiani This is also one which I think you're friends, right?

A. \ We say that he loves the drama, because he was president and I have a good relationship ...

P. \ I also have a good relationship with him, not the phone to say goodbye for now are against the tide and in fact must give us the president, no, here, however short, I believe, will not be disastrous ...

A. \ No.

P. \ I do not think it will be disastrous.

A. \ I think that is one who goes to see the facts and will review ...

P. \ Okay, feeling a bit ', he was director general of RAI, right?

A. \ He was deputy director.

P. \ Deputy Director-General.

A. \ He was director of Tg1, and speaks of the Sixties, then director of "cultural", then deputy director general, then came out, went to LRI to be president of the highways ...

P. \ Eh.

A. \ Then after Highways, to make it past the director of central Finmeccanica, then did the CEO of Finmeccanica, and there sold the Alfa Romeo to , and there's this thing, this whole affair here, and then went to Naples to ge ... to make that speech of recovery 'former steel mill area, no, not dug from a spider hole, and then has appointed the first president of Rome expo, which is a company on the outstanding Roman and then general manager of thing, of ... of ... of Acea, and Director General of ACEA has made a big operation, that if the face pull out of, like, in custody ... to, like, a Copservizi, is a very big, very, very big of an important load, and ... and ... and all the municipal of Rome, etc. ...

P. \ However, it is a capable ...

A. \ It is one that is very capable.

P. \ It is one that I "did" remember why he said that the children beat them with fists ...

A. \ Yes, yes, no, it's a very capable and then, judging the facts, then ... it's like her president, when I speak to you, say but did not give a shit, the important thing is that cats blindside mice ...

P. \ Yes, yes.

A. \ If blacks are red, are white ...

P. \ Okay ...

A. \ To him ...

P. \ Thank you, thank you very much ... then, the two things that bother you, Augustine, are ...

A. \ Yes, yes.

P. \ A, and ... and ... and why, and ... and ... and thou hast spoken of that Calabrian ...

A. \ Yes

P. \ Elected in Australia ...

A. \ And there, on what I have important news, very important ...

P. \ Here ...

A. \ And possibly positive, if governed the situation ...

P. \ Yes, and then about what I'm concerned, I'm doing this, I'm trying to aggregate several senators as possible, not ...

A. \ Yes

P. \ Here, then what if you have things to say, if you then ...

A. \ Of the things I can already tell if he wants them to him on the phone and then ...

P. \ Yes, tell me, go, tell me, tell me.

A. \ Then, he was the director ... it's not true what they told me because he actually had more culture, like, Labour, there, no ...

P. \ Hm.

A. \ This is the data, however, but, but ... and ran, not as I was told, "The Flame of Sydney, but the other paper of the same property, which is a property of Italians who come from the Veneto, important , which are major importers from ' of foodstuffs ...

P. \ Eh.

A. \ He is a man of these gentlemen, practically, of these gentlemen here ... he did two things ... meanwhile is returning to Australia shortly, tornadoes are very little, if I tell you ... it was like a friend of mine, and ... and ... and dear, which also lives in Milan, you know, etc., is a cousin of a great Australian restaurateur, and this gentleman was going to eat every night when he left the newspaper, eating ... and then ... and I know all their So he did two things, one, said the radio of Italians in Australia if the government does by this fall, however, does not approve a draft law on dual citizenship for Italians in Australia, he leaves ... obviously says the friend, and ... and ... and to say, restaurateur, is preparing the way out, because, obviously, is thinking about re-elect him next time, and it is clear that the government can not do it to make a drawing bill, approved dual citizenship in Australia, then why not the South Americans and Italians, etc., etc. ... the other thing is that, and ... and ... and he comes back very little in Australia, is the motto here in , the Journalism is important for him, it is important to the future, those who support ... then, I would say him better in person, say, President ...

P. \ Yes, but you feel a bit ', there is a person who could, we could use to contact him ...?

A. \ Yes, there's my friend, my friend who is an accountant important source Calabrese, who is in Milan, which also is our proboviro there, Forza in Milan, and is one our own ...

P. \ At home.

A. \ Our, important, that I turned to him knowing he had this cousin who was ... had a major restaurant chain in Australia, and he immediately told me all ...

P. \ So if you can ...

A. \ And he proposes just to say, then if I'm the man to contact, then I become the man to contact ...

P. \ If you could arrange a meeting with this gentleman in Milan Marinella with me Monday or next Tuesday, would you do me a favor.

A. \ It is too early, President, we must give ... do not do it in such a short time.

P. \ No, but not of the dep ... ... Senator ...

A. \ Oh.

P. \ Del proboviro.

A. \ Ah, yes, our friend of ours, and ... and ... and accountant, now ...

P. \ Right.

A. \ This I do it immediately.

P. \ Okay, first point, thanks very much and ...

A. \ Yes

P. \ Second point, that's crazy ... Antonella Troise

A. \ Yes

P. \ It was into my head that I hate ...

A. \ Yes

P. \ What I blocked his career ...

A. \ But ...

P. \ Went on to say the crazy things around ... I ask you this courtesy, to give her a call ...

A. \ The name is ...

P. \ And say, look at that, and ... and ... to make an appointment, do not know, say there is something, and say that I have taken away the peace because they are a bit 'of weeks I keep telling you : I have to work the Troise ...

A. \ Right.

P. \ Why is the father who is dying and needs money ...

A. \ Okay, call it, to convene ...

P. \ I'm sorry, tell her, emphasizes an active role in my ...

A. \ Right.

P. \ Why I keep telling him, but she says she thinks that I should even be a hindrance, which is just crazy, I've never been an obstacle to anyone in my life in any field ... okay, but it's crazy and then ...

A. \ Yes

P. \ Me this courtesy because it is becoming dangerous.

A. \ Okay, I have another thing to say to me, because I saw Peter was cast well, but I know that there is also another story going on, so on those two ....

P. \ No, so we stopped there instead.

A. \ Then I say what I said, I can tell very quickly, so he told me, he says: Look, Augustine then ... he is short, it was two hours at my house, he came to my house in Calabria at home my sister said, look, Augustine, while I appreciate this thing that Silvio has you, then that means that respects me and appreciates me, for I considered ... I say what I said, we consider a great intellectual, a great man ...

P. \ Well.

A. \ And that means that, to me what I deserve for currency, etc. But I tell you two things you need to tell him, then, one that I'm with him, that is, I mean, I hate those here, I are Democrat, I say, not that I had to end there ... two, that even if I pass, if he does not solve the problem of Casini, because I live in the Senate, standing in the government take the senators Casini ...

P. \ No, I can not keep senators Casini, because Casini permanently disgraced in front of everyone ...

A. \ No, but in fact, underneath ...

P. \ No, but underneath we denounce with great violence all this, I would go on television to say: this casino is a pig traitor and therefore disqualified forever the politics of the Liberals.

A. \ But he told me this is the problem, because we are ten, not take it anymore, I said ...

P. \ Yes, yes, yes ...

A. \ Can not do more.

P. \ In fact I have several there, I'm making the court more than twenty.

A. \ Another thing he told me ... I said yes, but I ... if has bothered to call me, I thing I must bring, I say: Peter, not we move, we lose time, I mean, by I say the one thing I can say however, that if the personal attacks on his property on his farm on his stuff, you're there, garantisciglielo, told me, this can guarantee him ...

P. \ Thanks.

A. \ Then we see the rest ... this garantisciglielo, and on this I'm there, and I declare it, because it is persecution, persecution would be a personal ...

P. \ Okay, thank you, you feel ...

A. \ The rest, I ...

P. \ Fusa So now I think I cook, I phone him directly, I ask him.

A. \ Oh, I know that he is something ... because he told me and then I see it ... but I say, okay, he told me this ...

P. \ Right.

A. \ I say ... it's perfectly fine, so I said ...

P. \ Okay ... okay.

A. \ Then, President, and when he can when he wants, I have to say other things, Rai, but ...

P. \ Okay, when you call to Marinella ...

A. \ Okay, okay.

P. \ I tell him to make an appointment immediately.

A. \ Meanwhile, I agree with Marinella I start to send the Pilella ...

P. \ Name?

A. \ Pilella, Peter Pilella

P. \ Rookies?

A. \ Peter Pilella.

P. \ Pilella.

A. \ Among other things, a character is also important to Milan, because Milan is in the Tax Commission ...

P. \ All right.

A. \ It's a serious person ...

P. \ Thank you.

A. \ Okay, President ...

P. \ Thanks.

A. \ Good job.

P. \ Thanks a lot, Augustine, hello.

A. \ But I want to say one thing that I found a consensus on the territory to her, in Calabria, which is now pope. (Laughs)

P. \ (Laughs) Okay.

A. \ But it is a wonderful thing.

P. \ Okay, thank you.

A. \ Goodbye.

P. \ Hello, thanks a lot, thanks.

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Saccà to: "That part there
Troise was no good for?

PHONE CALL N.7208 hours of 30.10.07 17:41

LEGEND
A. = Agostino Sacca '
S. SECRETARY = BAG '
P. = PRESIDENT

A. \ Hello?

S. \ Hello, good evening Dr. Sacca, past president

A. \ Thanks

S. \ Thanks

P. \ Augustine ...

A. \ Good evening, President, how are you?

P. \ Hello, I'm sorry if I ... well, I became a grandfather this morning, I have a grandson of four pounds ...

A. \ Congratulations!

P. \ Yes, everything looks good ... listen, I'm working well for the government, so I'm pretty calm. Feel something, I call Mrs. Marta Flavi ...

A. \ Yes

P. \ And he says he is negotiating to "Enchantment" part, and that everything depends on you, I have no relationship with Mrs. Flavian, I just mean that she has made a living calling ...

A. \ The Flavian Flavian ... the actress is not, then, well, a bit 'complicated, however ...

P. \ I understood

A. \ I'll take care and see ...

P. \ But look a little bit, well ... only in this case, I tell you the truth, say I made a phone call ...

A. \ OK

P. \ That's it, I have no interest ... except the fact of saying yes to those who ask a favor ...

A. \ Okay ...

P. \ That's it

A. \ President

P. \ Well, that part there, among other things, for ... that there was no good for Troise?

A. \ I do not think I do not think

P. \ No? Okay, let's see '

A. \ Now I see

P. \ Okay, scu ...

A. \ I. I agree with Marinella for next week to see when you

P. \ Yes, well, well

A. \ Goodbye, President

P. \ I'm sorry, but when one is in my position gets these things ...

A. \ No problem, President

P. \ It can not, can not sort

A. \ And then he never pressured, which is always so kind, if the things you can do, well, if not ...

P. \ Eh ...

A. \ Well, President

P. \ Then see you to give feedback, however

A. \ Thank you, we feel

P. \ Thanks for everything.

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